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17:06 < bibek> hell everyone
17:06 < bibek> hello*
17:06 < bibek> oops.
17:06 < bibek> so, i got this error on trying to make gcc
17:06 < bibek> https://ptpb.pw/X9tw
17:07 < bibek> how do i proceed, what went wrong?
17:25 < kcirick> bibek: are you doing chapter5 or 6?
17:25 < bibek> 5.5.1
17:26 < bibek> kcirick:with time { ../configure ... && make && make install }
17:26 < bibek> got that after waiting for 17 mins. : )
17:28 < kcirick> bibek: did you unpack mpfr gmp and mpc into the directory as it says?
17:28 < bibek> yes
17:30 < kcirick> I dont really understand the error you pasted... Maybe it's best to restart since  you aren't far into the process?
17:31 < bibek> kcirick: restart from where? umm
17:31 < bibek> from setting up the environment?
17:32 < kcirick> bibek: Restart from chapter5. All you have to do is recreate $LFS/tools
17:32 < kcirick> nothing else has been done yet
17:32 < bibek> kcirick: okay.
17:33 < kcirick> bibek: are you using Arch as a host?
17:34 < kcirick> and did you run version-check.sh http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable-systemd/prologue/hostreqs.html ?
17:40 < bibek> kcirick: yes and yes. everything shows up fine.
17:45 < kcirick> no error with binutils?
17:46 < bibek> kcirick: nope.
17:49 < kcirick> bibek: let me know how it goes the 2nd time around
17:50 < bibek> kcirick: okay
17:50 < kcirick> bibek: just another check... do you have $LFS set up correctly?
17:52 < bibek> kcirick: yup, from .bashrc
18:05 < bibek> https://ptpb.pw/3lhi
18:05 < bibek> same error
18:05 < bibek> kcirick: ^^
18:09 < kcirick> bibek: sorry I'm stuck... I don't know
18:10 < kcirick> there isnt much that can go wrong at this point
18:10 < bibek> kcirick: oh well
18:11 < kcirick> bibek: is /tools symlinked to $LFS/tools?
18:12 < bibek> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 May 19 21:20 /tools -> /home/bibek/archwin/tools
18:12 < bibek> yes
18:15 < kcirick> bibek: do you have an account at linuxquestions.org? there is a subforum for LFS you can try asking there...
18:19 < bibek> kcirick: i'll try that. thanks.
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04:00 < rminol> I'm was compiling my new lfs77 system and I downloaded all the patches and packages. But I changed my mind to build lfs7.7-systemd and I checked what are the differences in wget-list files.
04:00 < rminol> If I download those differences will it be compatible with the packages I downloaded previously
04:00 < rminol> ???
04:00 < rminol> sorry grammar mistake
04:01 < rminol> If I download those differences, will it be compatible with the packages I downloaded previously???
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06:38 < ikonia> any opinion why the development lfs book is passing --with-glibc-version=2.11 to the gcc build, rather than the actual glibc version
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08:40 < ikonia> the gcc 6 stuff is interesting, with some of the changes it looks like it's going to be very fussy about the mpfr version provided by the host distro
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08:40 < MOUD> Hey all
08:42 < ikonia> hello
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09:13 < ikonia> has anyone seen the linker from the /tools ld not look on the host for libraries,
09:13 < ikonia> my linker in /tools/ld is not looking in /usr/lib64 on the host for crt1.o in gcc pass 1
09:13 < ikonia> I've tried forcing it with LD_LIBRARY_PATH
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09:14 < ikonia> not quite sure how this expects to work as the tools crt1.o won't exist until the glibc install, so it has to link against the host for pass 1
09:15 < ikonia> not sure if this is something to do with gcc 6 over 5
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03:37 < bibek22> hello everyone
03:42 < bibek22> so, i'm on this  -> /lfs/view/development/chapter05/gcc-libstdc++.html
03:43 < bibek22> and there's no gcc-libstdc++ tarball ?  can't see it in wget-list either. where should i get it from?
03:43 < bibek22> or am i missing something...
04:19 < bibek22> ooops, it was right there, staring at my face. sorry
04:20 < bibek22> so, i got into extracted gcc directory and mkdir,cd into build,
04:20 < bibek22> and i'm getting error on trying to configure.
04:21 < bibek22> on doing ../libstd++-v3/configure ...
04:22 < bibek22> i get this--> configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLE
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06:20 < snfgf> ~hello
06:21 < LFSveteran> hi
06:21 < bibekG> hello
06:21 < LFSveteran> no Sploosh?
06:22 < bibekG> guys do you see my earlier messages? ?
06:22 < spiky> sploosh been gone awhile now
06:23 < snfgf> first boot soon
06:23 < snfgf> how long did it take you guys to put a lfs system together, the first time you did it?
06:23 < spiky> for ever
06:24 < bibekG> it's been a whole 24 hours for me. and i'm half way through  chapter 5. :D
06:24 < snfgf> I think I could have crammed it into a weekend. Barely paying attention to the material. Instead I have done it over ~2 weeks. Barely paying attention to the material.
06:24 < snfgf> Fingers crossed.
06:25 < snfgf> I have been less than diligent toward the end of the book.
06:25 < bibekG> snfgf: materials? what materials do you mean
06:26 < snfgf> I mean that I haven't understood a lot of the content of the book, and haven't investigated some things further.
06:26 < LFSveteran> couple of hours, but then the real fun started with BLFS
06:27 < snfgf> When I started I wanted to investigate each package, its libraries and source, but in the end I just make, install, then move on.
06:28 < LFSveteran> started with 32 bit and bios, version 5
06:28 < spiky> as you build more times you look into things
06:28 < LFSveteran> until a year ago I moved to a laptop and I was forced to use EFI and 64bit
06:28 < bibekG> well, i'm getting stuck on my first try.
06:28 < bibekG> got an error compiling gcc yesterday.
06:28 < LFSveteran> used CLFS to create the 64 bit stuff
06:29 < bibekG> followed development version now. and that issue gone.
06:29 < LFSveteran> en refind as bootloader
06:29 < bibekG> but, now, libstdc++ is complaining.
06:29 < LFSveteran> Today moved back to my old PC and wanted 64 bit as well there
06:29 < LFSveteran> setup the whole thing, installed grub
06:29 < bibekG> on 'configure', tried to open the file. it is frighteningly huge.
06:30 < bibekG> don't know how to proceed.
06:30 < bibekG> :(
06:30 < LFSveteran> and now I have that old "not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs"
06:30 < LFSveteran> darn
06:31 < LFSveteran> following LFS-stable or LFS-dev?
06:31 < LFSveteran> stable version should do
06:32 < bibekG> i'm following development version.
06:32 < LFSveteran> ah can be a pain sometimes
06:32 < bibekG> stable version gave me an error on trying to compile gcc yesterday.
06:32 < LFSveteran> stable must be okay
06:33 < bibekG> i have gcc6 on host machine which apparantly doesn't play nicely with stable version
06:33 < LFSveteran> don't skip any step
06:33 < bibekG> i didn't. i tried twice. :/
06:33 < bibekG> got same error on each try.
06:33 < bibekG> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5548034#post5548034
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06:34 < spiky> echo $LFS
06:34 < bibek> /home/bibek/archwin
06:34 < spiky> ok
06:35 < spiky> why not stick with the book
06:35 < spiky> 1st build
06:35 < bibek> which one? don't get it.
06:35 < LFSveteran> strange place for $LFS
06:36 < bibek> LFSveteran: well, it doesn't matter. /tools is symlinked so.
06:36 < LFSveteran> host system seems to screw up things
06:36 < spiky> true but why complicate matters
06:36 < LFSveteran> I used a livecd as startpoint
06:37 < LFSveteran> and mounted the LFS partition
06:37 < spiky> so did I use live cd still do some times
06:37 < bibek> i really don't think it's the path, but i'll try changing it again tomorrow. i'm too tired to go over it right now.
06:37 < bibek> live cd of any distro will do, right?
06:38 < LFSveteran> no the path $LFS isn't a problem, it find it only odd
06:38 < spiky> host is ok ?
06:38 < bibek> yeah.
06:38 < bibek> version-check.sh passes it all .
06:38 < bibek> i'm on up-to-date arch system
06:38 < spiky> so thats ok to build with
06:39 < bibek> ok.
06:39 < spiky> do you copy and paste the commands from book
06:40 < bibek> yeah. the long one with configure flags.
06:42 < bibek> /home/bibek/archwin/sources/gcc-6.1.0/build is the path to build that from, right?
06:42 < bibek> talking about this one  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter05/gcc-libstdc++.html
06:43 < snfgf> booting now
06:43 < snfgf> cya
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06:44 < spiky> yes
06:44 < bibek> i wonder what the error message is trying to tell.
06:45 < bibek> google doesn't help with it much.  error messages are too esoteric now.
06:45 < bibek> :D
06:45 < LFSveteran> error?
06:47 < bibek> configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLE
06:47 < bibek> LFSveteran: ^^ this. on trying to ./configure libstdc++
06:47 < spiky> use hastebin to paste
06:48 < LFSveteran> echo $LFS_TGT
06:48 < bibek> spiky: okay. but i can't seem to pipe the whole thing. :/
06:48 < bibek> LFSveteran: oh wait.
06:49 < bibek> x86_64-lfs-linux-gnu
06:49 < LFSveteran> and that's ok?
06:50 < LFSveteran> uname -a
06:51 < bibek> Linux Arch 4.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 11 22:21:28 CEST 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:53 < LFSveteran> using tools from the stable version?
06:55 < LFSveteran> using the dev version is okay, as long as you build the toolsdir from the dev version, do not use anything from the stable version
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06:57 < bibek> hey, sorry i got disconnected there for a while
06:58 < hpg> bibek, take a look at the log file (AFAIK config.log)
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07:01 < spiky> yay lxqt boots
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07:16 < bibek22> hey, sorry about the disconnection. my connection is very unstable right now.
07:17 < bibek22> so, here is the error i was talking about  https://ptpb.pw/whDe
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07:23 < snfgf> I get an error when I try to boot. I think I did something wrong toward the end. I get what looks like output of a command run as 'command --help', then 'see agetty for more details' (so I guess agetty --help), then 'Not enough processes in this runlevel, waiting 5 minutes.'
07:26 < Berzerkula> check your /etc/inittab for errors
07:27 < Berzerkula> copy and paste from the html book if you can't see anything out of the ordinary
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07:29 < snfgf> Berzerkula: I don't have an /etc/inittab o_O
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07:33 < spiky> are you building systemd version ?
07:34 < snfgf> No. I guess this is the problem. I remember going through section 7.7 (inittab). I must have copied & pasted, and missed the error.
07:34 < spiky> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter07/usage.html
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08:30 < LFSveteran> hmm upgraded the kernel and the VFS error is gone..
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08:43 < snfgf> How do I make it so Grub gives me a choice as to which of two partitions I want to boot from?
08:43 < snfgf> Something in grub.cfg I must edit?
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08:44 < LFSveteran> make multiple entries
08:47 < spiky> the 1st entry in grub.cfg is 0  default=0 2nd entry is 1  default=1
08:47 < snfgf> LFSveteran, in grub.cfg? What does the set root directive do?
08:47 < snfgf> Okay, thanks
08:48 < snfgf> Is an entry just the 'menuentry "GNU...', or does it include any of the directives I have at the start of my file?
08:50 < spiky> set default=0 will boot your 1st entry down to }
08:51 < spiky> menuentry blah { stuff }
08:51 < snfgf> So all I need is another, menuentry entry, with root=/dev/sdN and before that the path to the kernel image on parition /dev/sdN?
08:52 < spiky> make a complete menuentry for each distro
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08:52 < snfgf> All I have in my lfs menuentry is  linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.2-lfs-7.9 root=/dev/sda7 ro
08:53 < snfgf> So for my other distribution would
08:53 < snfgf>  linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/sda1 ro
08:53 < snfgf> be fine?
08:53 < snfgf> (assuming details are correct)
08:53 < spiky> if it,s a mainline distro "ubuntu" it will have an initrd
08:54 < snfgf> It is Debian. I am looking at its /boot, and it does have initrd. So I use that rather than the kernel image?
08:55 < spiky> it will have the kernal line, then the initrd line under neath
08:56 < spiky> dont use uuid in lfs grub
08:56 < spiky> use root=/dev/sdxx
08:58 < snfgf> menuentry "Debian Linux" { linux /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/sda1 ro
08:58 < snfgf> }
08:58 < snfgf> in my /boot/grub.cfg as my second menuentry. Is that okay?
08:59 < spiky> just copy whats in the debian grub.cfg
09:00 < spiky> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae root=/dev/sda9
09:00 < spiky> then
09:00 < spiky> initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae
09:00 < spiky> thats my debian
09:00 < snfgf> I have a config-3.16.0-4-amd64 on the Debian
09:00 < snfgf> it's huge, doesn't even have a menuentry
09:00 < snfgf> 6810 lines
09:01 < spiky> menuentry "Debain" {
09:01 < spiky>            insmod ext2
09:01 < spiky>            set root='(hd0,9)'
09:01 < spiky>            echo 'Loading Debain'
09:01 < spiky>            linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae root=/dev/sda9 ro quiet splash
09:01 < snfgf> thanks
09:01 < spiky> initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae
09:02 < spiky> missed that bit
09:02 < snfgf> ready to go
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09:07 < snfgf> spiky, I got an error
09:07 < spiky> from what
09:07 < snfgf> Booting Debian after adding menuentry, Magic Number..., then 'you need to load kernel first'
09:08 < spiky> lfs boots ok still?
09:10 < snfgf> I haven't checked. I can't do much on it atm, so booting from usb. Something that I changed after seeing your grub.cfg: I moved 'insmod ext2' and 'set root=(hd0,7)' inside of the lfs menuentry, (same with Debian menuentry, with correct partition); previously they were outside.
09:11 < snfgf> Oops
09:11 < snfgf> I see it now
09:11 < snfgf> O_o
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10:39 < TAbracadabra> "not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs",   me too lol
10:40 < spiky> doh
10:44 < LFSveteran> checked fstab?
10:44 < LFSveteran> and grub.cfg
10:47 < TAbracadabra> may be grub or the kernel.
10:48 < TAbracadabra> Hopefully I'll get to work on it today.
10:49 < TAbracadabra> fstab "looks" OK ;)   ... Need coffee 1st
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12:46 < hpg> TAbracadabra, did you solve that issue in the meantime?
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14:10 < Berzerkula> TAbracadabra: does the kernel panic state unknown-block device (0,0) or similar?
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15:13 < snfgf> What package is `time` binary a part of?
15:13 < Berzerkula> it's a gnu package at ftp.gnu.org/gnu/time/
15:14 < Berzerkula> it's also a shell builtin when using bash
15:14 < snfgf> thanks
15:14 < Berzerkula> but time-1.7 is a bit more accurate for timing things than the bash builtin
15:15 < Berzerkula> http://www.real-world-systems.com/docs/time.1.html
15:16 < Berzerkula> well maybe not, bash time uses getrusage() and GNU time uses times().  Because of microsecond resolution getrusage is far more precise.
15:16 < phobi4n> so stay with Bash?
15:16 < Berzerkula> some more info if ya want to read https://gist.github.com/linse/3737870
15:16 < snfgf> thanks
15:17 < Berzerkula> I usually build gnu time for my systems, because I'm used to doing so, but you can run your own tests and come up with a conclusion.
15:17 < Berzerkula> probably stick with bash time
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15:22 < snfgf> GNU time seems nice. You can get a lot of other information with it.
15:25 < snfgf> Unfortunate that time and the command being timed output to stdout, though.
15:31 < Berzerkula> isn't that how it is supposed to be?
15:31 < Berzerkula> run time (./configure && make && make install)  and at the end you get the stats
15:31 < Berzerkula> er oops wrong time for that hehe
15:33 < Berzerkula> for GNU time: /usr/bin/time -p sh -c './configure --prefix=/usr && make'
15:34 < Berzerkula> remove the -p option if you don't want the precise tradition format of "real %f\nuser %f\nsys %f\n"
15:52 < TAbracadabra> @hpg, Didn't have a chance to work on the boot issue yet, Hope to later. Thanks!
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16:06 < bibek22> hi everyone
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16:10 < bibek22> trying to give it(installation) a go once again, now.  fingers-crossed
16:11 < bibek22> this channel is logged? publicly? where can i see the log?
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16:29 < Berzerkula> bibek22: I don't know where the log is.
16:29 < Berzerkula> we used to have channel stats
16:30 < bibek22> oh okay.
16:30 < bibek22> my connection got unstable yesterday. so, just wanted to see.
16:31 < Berzerkula> my client saves a log, let me see
16:33 < bibek22> ls -l /tools/lib gives
16:33 < bibek22> lrwxrwxrwx 1 lfs lfs 3 May 22 07:02 lib -> lib
16:33 < Berzerkula> you just need May 20 logs?
16:33 < bibek22> a symlink to itself?
16:33 < Berzerkula> yeah probably LFS variable wasn't set
16:33 < bibek22> yup, just yesterday's
16:34 < bibek22> $LFS is set.
16:34 < Berzerkula> well I'm sure lib64 is to be linked to lib
16:34 < Berzerkula> lib64 -> lib
16:34 < Berzerkula> that's the only reason to have a link in /tools/lib
16:34 < bibek22> that it is. :)
16:38 < Berzerkula> http://clfs.org/~kb0iic/lfs-support-May20.txt
16:38 < Berzerkula> my irc client is a screen session on a server so it is usually always logging
16:38 < bibek22> so, maybe i should just delete and mkdir the lib? i'm restarting anyway
16:39 < Berzerkula> yeah remove the lib
16:39 < Berzerkula> recreate it
16:39 < Berzerkula> well if restarting no problem then
16:39 < Berzerkula> just make the link right next time hehe
16:39 < bibek22> great. okay. i'll doing that.
16:39 < bibek22> okay.
16:40 < Berzerkula> hmm that file seems small for a day log
16:40 < bibek22> hey, btw
16:40 < Berzerkula> Hi
16:40 < bibek22> when i say yesterday's i mean 21st  may sorry.
16:40 < bibek22> haha.
16:40 < bibek22> it's may 22 morning here.
16:40 < bibek22> :D
16:42 < Berzerkula> oh hehe
16:42  * Berzerkula recreates the log